My first agl disc. Bought to fill the flip up forehand fairway slot since reviews made it seem less stable then the numbers suggest. First throw (in a grass field) perfect flight. Second and third throws seemed a little less stable. Then played a round and without hitting trees or anything I saw it become less and less stable after three or four more throws. I would say it was 9,4,-1,2 on first throw and 9,5,-2.5,1 after maybe five throws without hitting anything. Still feels great and has a great flight path but requires extreme hyzer to avoid lots of turn. Great woods disc but I have never had a disc beat in that fast and extreme so durability seems questionable. I want to like the disc but I had had hundreds of discs and never seen this kind of beat in. Could be due to the recycled plastic which is a big plus for me as well as the planting of trees. Disc didn’t make me a diehard agl guy but also not an experience that would make me stop buying them.